When actors from TVβs top comedy series recently gathered for The Envelopeβs Emmy Comedy Roundtable, any lessons theyβd learned over the years about how not to break quickly went out the window β this yearβs guests made each other laugh early and often.
Contributing to the hilarity were Danielle Deadwyler, whose English professor in HBOβs βRoosterβ has her life disrupted by a bestselling writer; Donald Faison, who reprises the role of Christopher Turk, now chief of surgery, in the revival of ABCβs medical sitcom βScrubsβ; Sabrina Impacciatore, who embodies the vain managing editor of a failing regional newspaper on Peacockβs βThe Paperβ; Justine Lupe, who plays Morgan, a flighty but loyal sister and podcast co-host in Netflixβs rom-com βNobody Wants Thisβ; Lamorne Morris, who portrays New York City journalist Robbie Robertson in Prime Videoβs Depression-set βSpider-Noirβ; and Chris Perfetti, who features on βAbbott Elementaryβ as awkward but well-intentioned social studies teacher Jacob Hill.
In the course of our conversation, participants discussed surviving bad reviews, what fans misunderstand about comedy and, yes, how they keep a straight face during funny scenes (if not on The Envelope roundtable). Read excerpts from the conversation below.
What is the last thing that made you laugh out loud, whether it was meant to be funny or not?
Lupe: I have a one-and-a-half year-old. Sheβs just starting to talk. She doesnβt really say a lot of words at once, but she started doing this thing where, when sheβs going poop, she just goes, βOh, wow. Oh, wow.β And every time itβs just so cute.
Perfetti: I also do that when I poop, so please tell her itβs normalβ¦ I donβt know, guys. Itβs scary times. I donβt find myself laughing out loud very much anymore. I guess to that end, I watch Jimmy Kimmelβs monologue every night and I think that itβs pretty drop-dead gorgeous. Itβs so funny, and heβs using that platform in such a gorgeous way.
Faison: My daughter was playing a volleyball game against a very formidable opponent. Iβm just going to put it out there: LeBron Jamesβ daughter. She was serving and pushed everybody back with her serve. Boom! Everybody backs up. Now sheβs got everybody out of bounds, then she taps it real soft and it falls in front of them. I laughed out loud. I was just so impressed, and my daughter looked at me like, βYou motherβ. Donβt you enjoy that!β
Impacciatore: A couple of days ago I was fighting with my boyfriend and it was a very bad fight and I really wanted him to understand my reasons. I was trying to put on my trousers and unfortunately I put two legs in one [side]. He started to laugh so loud and I was so upset. And then I started to laugh loud too. But itβs horrible when it happens, because Iβm a very serious person when I fight.
Donald, the last season of βScrubsβ concluded in 2010. Now Dr. Turk is back working at the hospital with his buddy J.D. (Zach Braff) and a lot of the original cast. What was it like stepping back into that world?
Faison: When the pandemic happened, Zach and I did a rewatch podcast of βScrubs,β and thatβs where all of this started to formulate again. In doing the rewatch podcast, we researched what the fans liked, what we liked, and what we thought was funny. And we were very honest about it. If it sucked, we said it sucked. Then the T-Mobile [ad campaign with Faison and Braff] happened. So for the past five or six years, Iβve been playing Turk to Zach Braffβs J.D. When the revival came around, it was easy to slip back in because we had been doing this banter for so long. The only thing thatβs different is that heβs older, but maturity has not set in with him yet. Heβs a 50-year-old kid whoβs really good at cutting people open and training younger people, but for the most part, heβs still silly.
Chris, βAbbott Elementary,β which follows several teachers at an underfunded public school in Philly, is heading into its sixth season. That means youβve been playing Jacob for quite some time. Do you ever find the line between your personalities blurring?
Perfetti: The line between Chris and Jacob is definitely blurring. When we first started, I was shocked that Lorraine Ali Quinta [Brunson] saw me as this person. We werenβt alike at all, but I trusted that she saw something [in me] she wanted to exploit. Now, I would be so lucky to steal some of what heβs got going on. Heβs unbelievably loyal and ambitious and really comfortable in his own skin. He leads from that place. And I need to shut the hell up and stop telling the writers things about my own life because now theyβre showing up in the show. So truly the line between Chris and Jacob is getting weirder.
Danielle, βRoosterβ takes place at a fictitious college. You actually have several degrees, including multiple masterβs. Did you draw on your own experience in academia for βRoosterβ?
Deadwyler: I was a student, and thatβs a very different dynamic than being an administrator or a professor. But I dig education. I dig the intention of the environment, the debate, the ongoing pushing of the self and weaving that into your personal life. Itβs all super connected. So I just brought that to the show.
Youβre renowned for your work in intense films like βTillβ and βThe Piano Lesson.β Do you use a different muscle for comedy?
Deadwyler: I was always saying to the [βRoosterβ] team, βHey, guys, I feel good. I can breathe. I have energy to do things. Is that normal for people?β So yes, itβs a completely different muscle. But [co-star] Steve [Carell] says this beautiful thing that characters donβt know whether theyβre in a comedy or a drama. And thatβs about as true as it gets. You bring full rigor and development and discipline to the making of a role, regardless of what genre.
Justine, how much do you relate to your character Morgan in the interfaith romantic comedy βNobody Wants Thisβ? Or is it more like you want to fix her?
Lupe: I donβt know if I want to fix her because thatβs whatβs compelling about her. I have so much fun playing the mess of Morgan. I relate to her. I started off where she was kind of a semiautobiographical story of [show creator] Erin Fosterβs relationship with her sister, Sara. Then immediately the ship left the dock when I took the character. Justine has now taken over this idea of who this person is, and itβs a lot more sloppy and unbridled. The mess of her is actually me, because Iβm a little bit sloppy as a person.
The show really captures the relationship between siblings, and sisters in particular.
Lupe: I identify with the idea of being someone whoβs evolved past their original home life, and then going back into circumstances with your family, and regressing immediately. I wanted to play with that dynamic. Morgan might think that sheβs evolved past certain things and then the minute sheβs codependent with her sister, they devolve back into the bratty kid-like versions of themselves that are like picking on each other. I know the feeling, when you go back home and youβre like, βWow, have I grown up at all?β
Lamorne, βSpider-Noirβ is based on a Marvel comic and is set in an exaggerated version of 1930s New York. Audiences have the choice to watch the series in black and white or in color. How does the tone change between the two styles?
Morris: I watched both and they both have their own unique qualities. I would say the way folks should watch it is the way we traditionally watched TV as a people. You start in black-and-white and then when color was introduced, you would go back and watch those same films when they added color to it. While weβre filming it, [I was thinking] βHow are they gonna make this visual effect look cool in black-and-white?β And then you watch it in black-and-white and you go, βWhat the fβ?!β And I go back and watch it in color and go, βHoly β it looks great in color, too.β Everything down to the wardrobe [and] the set design, you watch it in black-and-white and it looks bold and as vivid as if it were in color. But then when you watch it in color and you go, βHoly crap, that house is blue, that suit is orange.β So just go watch it in both versions.
Sabrina, your character in βThe Paperβ wants to be the managing editor of the Toledo Truth Teller, but sheβs really all about the clickbait. How much did you know about that conflict in modern journalism?
Impacciatore: I made sure not to know anything about it because Esmeralda doesnβt have a clue. Esmeralda is not a real journalist. Esmeralda is there for some mysterious reasons that Iβm trying to figure out. Sheβs the queen of bullβ, so I made sure not to know anything about journalists. And because I had played Valentina in βWhite Lotus,β I wanted to make sure that this character is going to be completely different from her. She must be out loud, she must be big. So I made some choices about her, for example, the nails. I still have these nails because Iβm still shooting, but usually I donβt have long nails. But these nails started to make me think in a different way, to move my hands in a different way. Like these are guns, weapons to manipulate people. [Touches Morris with her nails.]
Morris: Consider myself manipulated.
Impacciatore: Iβm the opposite. I have no filters in life. I am my own worst enemy. Iβm too transparent. I donβt know how to hide feelings. So I thought, βWhat does she do?β Because itβs a documentary, she thinks one day she will be a star. So I have her have hair like Rita Hayworth the first day I arrived on set. They were looking at me like, βWhat is she doing?β They didnβt get it, so I had to explain that she wants to be a star. Once you start to play a manipulative person, you see manipulation everywhere. Itβs like now Iβm losing a bit of innocence, because I donβt trust anybody anymore. Now randomly I say, βAre you trying to manipulate me?β
βThe Paperβ and βAbbott Elementaryβ are mockumentaries. Does it make a difference in how youβre performing when itβs shot in that style?
Perfetti: On our best day, weβre trying to dupe people into believing that itβs real life. But similarly, I think Jacob thinks that he will be the star of this documentary whenever it comes out. Heβll be an executive producer on it. So thereβs very much an element of having one foot in the audienceβs experience. His outrage is heightened because he knows itβs being captured on film. I grew up doing plays and so itβs an easy dynamic to borrow from. When youβre on stage, even on your best days, you always have even a pinkie in the audienceβs experience. You have to be able to be in conversation with them. The mockumentary format really allows for that and I think it informs the show in a really beautiful way.
Impacciatore: The first time that I watched βThe Office,β I thought, βThis project is incredible, but the light is so horrible. I will look so ugly.β I was trying not to be chosen for this project because I was so scared to be so ugly. So when I arrived on set as the character, I brought my own ring light and I said, βGuys, Esmeralda, because she knows sheβs in a documentary, she needs her own lighting.β I got away with it. To me, comedy is a very serious thing.
What do audiences underestimate or misunderstand about what it takes to make a comedy?
Deadwyler: The assumption is that youβre being funny, and itβs not that at all. When you [Chris] just talked about doing plays, I was thinking theater is the thing that enabled me to really lean into the joy and transition into working on βRooster.β Thereβs a rhythm and a quality of engagement that I learned completely in the theater world that applied to the gelling and the cohesion of βRoosterβ in all of the scenes. So leaning into drama enables you to lean into the hilarity or the quirkiness or awkwardness of humor.
Morris: If the script is funny, itβs going to be funny if youβre an actor playing it real. And obviously you have throughout history those characters who know how to add to that, who can ham it up in such a way. Chris Farley and those guys. The Belushis, the Will Ferrells. They can take something really funny and just say, βIβm gonna add my stamp to it so when you see this type of humor, you know it was from me.β Then you have your Judd Apatows of this world who can create a funny environment and all the actors are basically playing it real and playing it straight.
Faison: People think youβre actually that funny or youβre that quick and you can come up with those jokes that fast. But really youβre saying somebody elseβs words and youβre being somebody else. Somehow I got labeled as a stand-up comic. Iβve never done stand-up in my life, but Iβve been in so many comedies that people think, βHe must be funny in real life.β I imagine Jack Black must hate going outside because everybodyβs, βDo that skandosh, sliggidy, diggity thing that you do!β
Deadwyler: They want you to do that you do for drama, too.
Morris: βMake me cryβ?
Deadwyler: They want you to give them the feeling that they know you for, because thatβs all theyβve witnessed of you. They want me to ride a horse. They want me to cry. And itβs like, βIβm just trying to get these chicken wings and go home.β
And trying to break out of that, whatever that is, and move on to the next thing that you want to do.
Faison: For a long time it was very difficult as an actor to do anything else other than comedy, because you could get typecast. Thatβs something that happens right away. You could be the best friend for the rest of your life if youβre not careful.
Morris: I came up in traditional comedy. Second City, Chicago. When I was a kid, I didnβt care about anything else other than like making people laugh. So in plays and things, I was always cast as the comic relief, back in my ham-it-up days. Up until the beginning of my TV career with βNew Girl.β I didnβt know who I wanted to be on that show. I didnβt know who I was and Iβm thankful to the staff for just allowing me to grow into that character. But what I grew into was a fβ clown. I just was like, βOh man, I get to do this for seven years.β I loved every minute of it.
When you get recognized out in public or somebody knows they know you from something, who have you been misidentified as? Or do they simply call you by your characterβs name?
Faison: I was at sushi once and it was actually another famous person that came up to me, Iβm not gonna say their name. And he looks at me and goes, βAlfonso?β I said, βNope.β And he hightailed it out so quick. I was like, βI gotta call Alfonso Ribeiro and tell him that somebody thought that I was him at a restaurant.β Iβm glad to be recognized, but I am not Alfonso Ribeiro.
Morris: People think Iβm everybody, but thereβs one guy I get. Malcolm Barrett. This has been going on for 15 years. A good friend from theater school, we did every play together, he called me when I moved to L.A. and was like, βDude, congratulations on your AT&T commercial!β I was like, βWhat AT&T commercial?β And heβs like, βThe one where youβre playing Pop-a-Shot basketball.β And Iβm like, βThatβs not me.β Years later, everyone, people would come up to Malcolm all the time and say, βCongrats on βNew Girl.ββ
Perfetti: I cannot go to Philadelphia because I suddenly now have 5 million new family members. I donβt get mistaken for an actual person, but I do love the moment where you pass them on the sidewalk or on the subway and you see the wheels churning in their mind.
Lupe: I have a yoga teacher that still calls me Willa [her character from βSuccessionβ]. Iβve been going to her for like a year and sheβll be like, βAnd Willa, you want to move into down dog.β
Justine, youβve been referred to as a scene-stealer more than once for your work in βSuccessionβ and βNobody Wants This.β What do you make of that?
Lupe: That was the thing about βSuccession.β I started when I was 26 and I felt like I got to be a fly on the wall in so many incredible scenes with all-star actors. To even be even seen among that kind of company, it makes me so happy. I feel the same way about βNobody Wants This.β I look around and Iβm like, βWow, these are just incredible people that Iβm working with.β So itβs nice to know that people are even registering my existence.
Perfetti: Willa is responsible for what I think may be one of the funniest TV moments ever. I canβt remember which season where you read your reviews and throw the iPad overboard, but it lives in my mind rent-free. The sound you make, the way that you just kind of stare off into the distance afterward, itβs one of the greatest things Iβve ever seen.
Do you read reviews of your work?
Morris: I did a movie called βSandy Wexlerβ with Adam Sandler and he said to me, βHey buddy, when a film comes out, donβt read the reviews.β Heβs like, βWho cares? We got our own thing going.β β¦ It allowed him to stay true to who he is for his fan base, which is larger than life. If you start caring so much about what people think about your art, itβs going to change what got you there in the first place. Thatβs what Jamie Foxx talked about after winning an award, you donβt want to switch it up all of a sudden because everybody looks at you like youβre this great actor, you won this thing, and you start doing things differently.
Impacciatore: On set, if someone gives me a feedback about something that he liked, I donβt want to hear that because it feels like a trap. And I donβt want to know what worked and what didnβt work because I want to be free. I want to explore things. Reading a review β¦ itβs something rational that is describing something irrational. Like to me, acting is an irrational act. Itβs wild when it happens. Itβs going somewhere else and not even knowing what you did.
Faison: I tend to not look at reviews. This was the first time ever in my life β¦ when βScrubsβ came out this time around. Itβs because we made it for the fans. It was strictly for the fans. So when we put it out and the critics were very nice this time around, that was cool. And then you get to Reddit and Instagram and youβre waiting for them to be like, βYou guys suck!β βHow dare you?!β And that didnβt show up. It was like, well, Iβm gonna read the reviews then.
Lupe: I once had a critic call me a βbargain-basement Gwyneth Paltrow.β
Morris: Youβre like, βGwyneth Paltrow, you say?β
Lupe: As long as the word Gwyneth is in there, Iβm OK.
Morris: If someone calls me βa bootleg Eddie Murphy,β Iβm retiring.
Faison: βHe kind of reminds me of a poor manβs Richard Pryor.β Why, thank you.
Lupe: There was like a part of me where I was like, βWell, if I can make it through that, then whatever. Who cares? Itβs just fun to hear peopleβs perceptions of what youβre putting out there. How people interpret it. Because sometimes you canβt see the forest through the trees. If you have enough perspective, itβs interesting to hear the dialogue about the things that youβre working on.
Deadwyler: If itβs productive, I find that critical analysis is useful. But if itβs critical stabbing, thatβs useless to me.
Faison: I have a question for all of you guys. When it comes to acting on set, do you prefer to see what you just did or do you prefer to trust what the director says? When it comes to comedy, I wanna see what the fβ we are doing just to make sure weβre in the rhythm.
Lupe: I donβt watch it in the moment. Iβve gotten easier on myself watching things after theyβre released. When I first watched my work, I just wanted to like, in all honesty, tear my face off. It was really a tough experience.
Morris: If I trust the director, I never look at the monitor. No knock on, like first-time directors, because I work with a lot of first-time directors that I trust, but there are some from time to time that just go, βItβs great,β every take. And so sometimes I have to go, βJust give me a second, let me see.β … A couple of times [theyβd tell me], βEverything you did was brilliant.β And I know for a fact it wasnβt. So now I donβt trust sβ you say.
The Envelopeβs 2026 Emmy Comedy Roundtable: Lamorne Morris, from left, Justine Lupe, Chris Perfetti, Danielle Deadwyler, Donald Faison and Sabrina Impacciatore.
Chris, the cast on βAbbottβ are so good at bouncing lines off one another. How are you not breaking all the time, or are you?
Perfetti: Itβs certainly gotten harder as weβve gotten closer. Weβre all trying to make each other break now. But weβre pretty good. The show is sort of made on the fly and weβre constantly throwing jokes away or trying to see how far we can push something. I think a lot of what we find funny on βAbbottβ is people trying to avoid pain. Even when itβs ridiculous, it doesnβt feel too hard to keep our feet on the ground. Weβre also so blessed with the mockumentary [format]. The story is very much told by the camera. So Iβm always on, and something that comes up in that take might make it into the final cut because thereβs three cameras going at all times. But Quinta probably breaks the most because β¦ she genuinely forgets about some of the jokes that she writes. And so when she hears it again, it takes her by surprise.
Lupe: There is something to that energy of people enjoying being in that kind of space with each other, like on the verge of laughing. Riding the line of being just about to break, itβs so much fun. The chemistry between them is so palpable. When you see a break like that, youβre like, βWow, theyβre really enjoying each other.β
Morris: [Itβs hard when] Iβm literally loopy, itβs late and I know this actor Iβm working with is a fβ killer. I start laughing before we roll, and Iβm like, βThis is gonna be so difficult.β
Lupe: And then itβs like that thing when youβre like a little kid, where someoneβs like, βStop laughingβ and it makes it worse because you are trying so hard not to laugh.
Impacciatore: If there is that moment where we can break, there is a real abandonment and there is a real freedom … Itβs the most beautiful feeling about being an actor. Itβs about feeling less lonely.
Faison: Danielle, youβre working with Steve. First of all, heβs gonna break everybody. Iβm pretty clear that everybody on setβs gonna laugh because heβs just got that. But has anybody made him break yet? And who is that person? I know if I made Steve Carell break in the middle of a scene, Iβm dancing for a while. Iβm gonna be calling my mom like, βYo, he fβ laughed at my joke!β
Deadwyler: I know that they wilded out the day the bed broke [during a fight scene with co-star Phil Dunster]. But I have not seen him break in that way. He is so rigorous. Heβs about building the character, building a dynamic, trying to tell a full story.
Lupe: He also must have so much practice from βThe Office.β
Deadwyler: Heβs strong.
Faison: I laugh harder at βSaturday Night Liveβ when they break than when they keep it together.