Cailee Spaeny looks at Charles Melton, her co-star on the Netflix limited series โBeef,โ asking for help. โWait a minute … how long were we attached?โ Melton smiles and reaches for her hand. โWeโve been attached our whole lives.โ
Have they? Given how they tease and finish each otherโs sentences, it sure feels that way. Spaeny and Melton were cast as Ashley and Austin, a Gen-Z couple working at a Montecito country club, dreaming and scheming toward upward mobility, a good 18 months before filming began in early 2025. To cement their bond, Spaeny, who hails from Missouri, and Melton, an Army brat who considers Kansas home, decided to return to their Midwestern roots, round up their families and go to a Kansas City Chiefs football game just before Christmas.
At one point, Spaeny looked over to see her brother-in-law having a heart-to-heart with Meltonโs dad. They were crying. After the game, they all went out for barbecue. Melton surprised his dad with a gift โ a truck.
โThat was very sweet and emotional,โ Spaeny says of the day. โThereโs a lot of filling in the blanks when your families are from the same part of the country. Theyโre down-to-earth, churchgoing families. It felt easy. Weโre cut from the same cloth.โ
When the Palisades and Eaton fires delayed the start of filming, Spaeny and Melton decamped to Solvang, rented an Airbnb with some friends and continued what Spaeny calls their โweird prepโ for playing the seriesโ besotted couple. They cooked dinners together, played games and even watched โRiverdale,โ the CW series that catapulted Melton to fame a decade ago.
โWe also watched โWickedโ too many times,โ Spaeny, 27, says.
โYou were singing a lot,โ Melton, 35, tells her.
โI donโt think I sang once,โ Spaeny counters.
โOh she did,โ Melton says. โSheโs a singer. Sing for us.โ
โGuys, what are we doing?โ Spaeny says, burying her head in her hands.
Whatever it is, weโre not stopping. We have, as Melton notes much to Spaenyโs chagrin, โcaught a vibe.โ
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You two represent different generations …
Melton: What? Excuse me?
Charles, youโre a millennial. Cailee is Gen-Z.
Spaeny: Oh my God. Youโre so Gen-Z coded.
Melton: Iโm a zillennial.
Spaeny: Did you feel like there was an age gap between us?
Melton: I feel like weโre the same age. You know Iโm an old soul. My exterior is just goofy. Cailee is wise beyond her years.
Whatโs the biggest difference between the two generations?
Melton: I think the generations are more alike than different. As a millennial and zillennial, Iโve done my share of weird self-diagnosing.
Spaeny: TikTok therapy for sure. Holding onto words that make us feel more seen through the internet. The comment โI just read the headline. I need to start reading the articles.โ Itโs sad but itโs true. And I think everyone does it.
1. Charles Melton. 2. Cailee Spaeny. (Erik Carter / For The Times)
Do you relate to your charactersโ Gen-Z resentment that previous generations screwed them over? โEveryone grabbed the bag before we could.โ
Spaeny: There was a time when having a house by your 30s was guaranteed. Now, youโre having to choose whether you want to have children or stay afloat in your career. Weโre all riddled with this feeling of the life we feel we deserve …
Melton: And what will make us happy. Ashley gets the promotion. But the social climb is never enough. Itโs โif you do this thing, youโll get the this thing.โ
Spaeny: Itโs the constant chase.
Youโve both defied the odds and enjoyed successful careers as actors. Can you be content and sit with that?
Spaeny: We try. But it also feels like itโs set up in a way where you canโt sit. You have to look for the next thing because if you wait, people will get bored with you. Youโll book a job and hopefully it pays well and then you might not work again for two years. Itโs easy to be in a place of desperation. Actors are also naturally people-pleasers. So, unfortunately, I think it was too easy for us to relate to our characters.
Melton: Maybe part of your question, which led to your beautiful answer, is: Whereโs acceptance? Iโm a father now. Sometimes, Iโm super tired, but the best thing is I get to read to my kid. Looking at life through a place of abundance … but that can be a tough thing to do.
Spaeny: Itโs not just the entertainment industry. I go back home and Iโm with my sister, who is an amazing mother and soccer mom. And you can feel that itch inside of people back home too. Have I done enough for my children? Do I need to go to more soccer tournaments? Am I going to church enough?
Melton: Itโs everywhere. And under the umbrella of class and healthcare and how expensive everything is, itโs tough. The bill we had just to have a baby was so ridiculous.
Spaeny: Oh yeah. My favorite line in โBeefโ was, โDo you know the 16-piece meal at KFC is $52.99 now?โ That sums it up.
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I looked that up. Itโs true, though you can get the 16-piece chicken-only meal for about $37.
Melton: But you canโt just eat the chicken. You have to have the sides and biscuits, right?
How about Austinโs line: โAll we need is each other … and the beach.โ
Melton: Thatโs what I love about Austin, this optimism but considered to be naivete. Really, at the end of the day, Iโll look at my partner and Iโll look at my daughter and be like, โThis is absolutely all I need.โ
Spaeny: [Sighs] I would love to get to that point.
Melton: But then to put food on the table, youโre required to do things that take you away from the things that you say are all you need.
Spaeny: The great thing about this show is that itโs zeroing in on everyday impossibilities of life, the things that should be so simple, but drive us all up the wall.
You both talk about Midwest sensibility. Do your roots help ground you?
Spaeny: I just got back from home last night, and I always feel a layer gets peeled off when Iโm there. With work, Iโm always on edge and trying to hold onto this thing that could be taken away from me any day. When I go back home, I feel like it can really be that simple. But it doesnโt last. Thatโs the problem. The itch comes back.
Thereโs nothing wrong with a little ambition.
Spaeny: Iโm finding ambition more and more unattractive these days. Maybe thatโs me just getting older and wanting more outside of the job.
Melton: Weโve talked about this. If weโre always going from one thing to the next, how can I bring the humanity and soul of my life into my work? If I had my way, Iโd take three to six months off between jobs just to live and put my feet on the grass. Cailee and I connect in many ways. I love your determination and drive and passion for the work. Some people want to act like they donโt care, but I think itโs cool to care.
Timothรฉe Chalamet does too, but he got flack for saying that out loud, that he โwanted to be one of the greats.โ
Melton: I thought that was fโ awesome. You want to be great? We all do.
Spaeny: Itโs what every actor is thinking except theyโre feigning …
Melton: We love Chalamet over here.
Spaeny: Maybe he didnโt say all the right things, but that speech, thatโs why weโre in the building.
Melton: Itโs very much the athleteโs mentality. Like Deion Sanders is one of the greatest of all time. โYou look good, you feel good, you play good.โ
Itโs OK for an athlete to say that, but if an actor does, the world gives them grief.
Melton: That kind of sincerity is the default in Kansas and Missouri. You know, growing up as an athlete, I was pretty good. I ran the 100-meter dash in 10.9 seconds. Make sure you write that in. [Laughs] You have to have a vision. And the artists that speak on that vision, thatโs awesome. Visualization is essential. I wouldnโt be here talking with one of my best friends and one of the greatest actresses ever …
Spaeny: What are you doing?!?
Melton: Iโd rather give you flowers all day than talk about what I think. All that to say is that I wouldnโt be doing this if I did not have vision when I was in Kansas to leave with $500 in my pocket, 60 cans of chicken noodle soup and 60 cans of tuna. You have to dream.
Spaeny: A dollar and a dream!
Iโve got to ask. Sixty cans of chicken noodle soup on a road trip? Do you just pop the top and down it cold?
Spaeny: Great question.
Melton: Iโd just take off the top and lay it in the sun for two or three hours and itโs good to go.
Spaeny: Please stop.
Melton: OK. Iโd just dip my finger in it and because Iโm so hot, it just boils.
Spaeny: You see what Iโm saying? Heโs such a dad.
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