Nate Bargatze has a genius plan to keep Emmys speeches short
Nate Bargatze probably isnโt the Emmys host most people were expecting โ which seems to be the reason heโs hosting. The Tennessee-bred comedian doesnโt live in Hollywood. Heโs nice, polite and genuinely seems to want the best for people. So basically … weโre not exactly sure how he got the gig. But like the George Washington character he famously portrayed on โSaturday Night Live,โ the measure and logic of his popularity is hard to quantify yet itโs oddly reasonable to the average American.
What Bargatze cultivates in comedy is a radical sense of safeness at a time when things feel hopelessly the opposite. When talking to him days before hosting the 77th edition of the awards, itโs clear that he knows his role is to entertain, make people laugh and move the night along. Behind that simple directive, thereโs a genius to his slow, Southern gentleman persona that has made him the countryโs highest-grossing stand-up comedian. So much so that heโs doing two back-to-back arena shows in Denver before the awards show just as a warmup.
With a reputation for clean comedy and fostering a sense of stability for his fellow stand-ups under his ever-expanding production company, Nateland, Bargatze continues his mild-mannered hot streak. Viewers may tune in to root for just that, even if they care less and less about awards shows.
Bargatze spoke to The Times about his hosting game plan, the importance of using the awards show as a platform to spotlight stand-up comedy and his genius plan to keep the winnersโ thank-you speeches on Sunday mercifully short.
This interview was edited for length and clarity.
Have you ever watched the Emmys?
Uh, yeah, Iโve watched the Emmys. [Pause] Yes. I want to think if Iโve watched โฆ yeah, Iโve watched them. You know what โ I think I watched โem.
I would probably say that too.
[Laughs] No, Iโve watched the Emmys, and I have gone back and rewatched some. But I remember watching them all [growing up]. When shows like โBreaking Badโ were on, TV really started changing and shows started becoming these huge kinds of shows that everybody was so into.
Itโs a question on my mind because your fans donโt seem like the average people who watch the Emmys, so the crossover is kind of interesting with CBS bringing you in as a host.
Yeah, I thought the same thing when they asked me. Itโs a delicate thing. Iโm impressed by everybody, and I know the hard work it takes to make stuff. Award shows are very exciting. I do like award shows, and I think everybody in the country likes award shows because itโs fun to see if your favorite things are gonna win or not โ I look forward to it. Award shows are live, these are fun things. It can compete with sports in a way. And so, doing it in a great, fun way, should be something everybody looks forward to.
Youโve done stand-up in pretty much every arena, and now youโre literally performing in arenas, but what is different about writing jokes for an awards show?
You know, itโs finding a balance. Honestly, I havenโt seen all the shows yet, so Iโm not going to know everything about every show, and I trust the writers on the [awards show]. But then I donโt want to be disrespectful to the shows because Iโm being ignorant for maybe not knowing these shows. Itโs not like Iโm better than the shows. People donโt see everything. Not everybody has seen my stand-up. I want to be polite to everybody in the audience, but we could also joke because not everybody [at the Emmys] has seen every show.
You were nominated for a couple Creative Arts Emmys this time around and lost both … do you think they messed up?
They messed up, man. I thought it was guaranteed since I was hosting.
I thought for sure theyโd throw you a bone, right?
As most people will say โฆ itโs nice to be nominated.
But I think it brings up an interesting question because the categories you were nominated in were under outstanding variety special. Do you think at this point, given how comedy has become so dominant, stand-up specials should have their own category?
I do. I absolutely do. Stand-up comedy is a newish art form. Itโs getting way more into the mainstream and I think you need to have it [grouped] together [in its own category]. For [outstanding writing for a variety special] Iโm up against โSNL 50,โ and thatโs a whole team of writers.
And then for [outstanding variety special (pre-recorded)] weโre against, like, [Conan OโBrienโs Mark Twain Prize ceremony] or some big production. Itโs just such a different kind of thing, so I think stand-up should [have its own category]. I think people are becoming such big fans of stand-up and they want to root on their favorite comedian, and comedians are a voice to the rest of the country.
Nate Bargatze on the overlap between his fans and awards show watchers: โI do like award shows, and I think everybody in the country likes award shows because itโs fun to see if your favorite things are gonna win or not โ I look forward to it.โ
(Christina House/ Los Angeles Times)
Speaking of comedic voice, why do you feel like the style of comedy youโre bringing to this awards show is necessary right now for the country? Do you think in those terms?
I just do me, and I think whatever I am has kind of caught up โ me and this moment maybe are coming together at the right time. I donโt think Iโm intentionally doing anything that I wouldnโt have done even if I didnโt have all these opportunities. But what I like about doing it with stand-up, and why I want to go and do these big shows and tours and all this stuff, is that stand-upโs a newish art form [in terms of] how you see it today. And so I want the next generation of comedians to realize that they can just go be a stand-up comedian. If they wanna go do movies and TV, they can, but they can also make a career out of stand-up.
When I first started, Brian Regan did it, Jim Gaffiganโs been great at it, and Sebastian Maniscalco. But overall a lot of people had TV shows, and they were trying to get a TV show or get into movies or get into whatever the next step was. Now stand-up comedy can stand [on its own] and just be like music. Musicians donโt have to go try to be in movies and stuff โ they are musicians. So stand-up comedy, I think, is a great art form that should be portrayed and looked [at on its own]. Youโve got to write it, you gotta direct yourself and perform it. If you get to bring a stand-up comedian on something, itโs just nice because theyโve kind of done everything.
How has clean comedy become the most valuable path for you as youโre growing as not only a comedian but also as someone creating a platform for other comedians?
I want to build that trust so [audiences] know what they can expect โ I donโt want to surprise them. Yes, I want to surprise them with the material, but I donโt what to veer off of what got me here. I try to build a thing with [my production company] Nateland, the thing that they can trust and they can go, โAll right, I know what this is.โ So a lot of people were intimidated by comedy because it can be very dirty โ or what they know of it is very dirty โ or it can be mean. And you get the audience in to learn about it, and then they can go discover what they want to discover because anything and everything is out there. Thatโs the big reason, just to get people [into comedy] and aware. Then hopefully this next young generation keeps pounding and keeps doing stand-up.
Did you have pressure to incorporate politics or hot-button issues into your monologue for the Emmys? Or did you just kind of like say, โIโm going to just do me for thisโ?
There were a couple jokes [written for me] that Iโd be like, โI donโt know if I want to say it.โ But everybody knows that I wouldnโt. Because you can say stuff in a way that would have broad appeal on [certain controversial issues], but itโs a matter of, โDo I even want to bring it up?โ Iโm sure people are gonna have speeches and want to say whatever they want to say and they go do it. But for me, I should be the constant palate cleanser. What I think or believe or any of that stuff just doesnโt matter for the purpose of what Iโm doing. Iโm there to be entertaining and move the show along. So Iโll just do me.
If it ainโt broke, donโt fix it.
If it breaks, then Iโll change it.
Is there advice you may have gotten about hosting awards shows from other comedians?
A lot of it was to โbe you, to just do what you do, trust in what you do.โ I talked to Nikki Glaser and Conan. Jimmy Kimmel, who I talked to last night, was really wonderful. He wrote a bunch of notes out and really thought it through and was like, โHey, if this happens, you need to go out there. If something weird happens, you need to go out there as a host. Donโt take a long time, just get out there.โ Hopefully nothing weird happens, knock on wood, but itโs if it does, you remind people who you are. Not everybody is gonna know who I am as a stand-up comic. [I was told itโs important to] make that audience in the [room] laugh. I was thinking about the people at home, but it made sense to really want to make [the crowd] laugh, because then the people at home laugh, because then itโs comfortable.
It feels like itโs going to be a noticeably less Hollywood vibe with you hosting, which I think is maybe driving people to be curious about checking out the show.
Yeah, I hope so. Thatโs the kind of vibe weโre bringing in. I wrote shows, Iโve done all the Hollywood stuff, and weโre starting to make movies now. The Hollywood system โ I think itโs a good system, but I was kind of outside of it. I was on the road. I live in Nashville. I just wasnโt in it and so naturally Iโm gonna bring something different. A big reason why I moved to Nashville was just because your stand-up is about your life. And I just didnโt want it to be like everybody elseโs life. Because then you end up talking about the same things. So you need to go somewhere else to have different experiences so then you have something different to talk about.
Youโve been very connected to Nashville in your comedy and also with Nateland, which youโve said you want to turn into a theme park in the city. What does that mean to you?
Yes, I want to build a theme park. We had Opryland when I grew up [in Nashville]. Our parents would just drop us off at the theme park, and we would go run around and they would pick us up later on. I want to create a place that has those moments where you can go do that stuff. Nowadays youโre always like, โWhere are your kids?โ You have to think about them all the time. And you want to try to create a space where these kids can come and you can let them go be 15 and run around without their parents, and you shouldnโt have to worry about it. Itโs really just keeping that trust going. Thatโs the main thing with Nateland. Iโm not gonna make all the right moves. Iโm not perfect by any sense of the word. But I want you to be able to rely on me that Iโm gonna be there.
You also produce podcasts and specials under the Nateland brand and have been very involved in helping the careers of other comics. Why is that important for you?
I feel like when I came up, I was lucky. [Jimmy] Fallon was great to me, Marc Maron was a great, I had [Jim] Gaffigan. I had people that were very nice and very helpful and very great. But when youโre in this [business], I donโt think everybodyโs always looking to help you. And then people donโt get out of the way. And then itโs not always like everything moves accordingly. It used to just be that youโre a comic, then you would try to get a sitcom, you moved to L.A. And then the next group comes up. But you can get kind of stuck in this system where no oneโs moving, no one is changing. Then the alt-comedy scene got started because all of us trying to get in [to perform at] clubs had to go a different route because we couldnโt get into the clubs. It was almost like too many of us at the same time in this clogged-up system. I look back at it and itโs frustrating. On the path I took, Iโve done every show you could do. Iโve performed [in front of] one guy and [also in front of] 20,000 people. So now I just have all the stuff that Iโve done, and you just wanna give it to the next generation [of comics] โ [I try to] keep an eye out on them and try to help them.
What is your barometer for how well you perform on Sunday night?
They asked me if I had a creative way to try to keep speeches short besides just playing people off to music โ because they ignore the music. And so then I came up with a way where Iโm gonna donate $100,000 to Boys & Girls Club of America and then everybody gets 45 seconds for their thank-yous. Every second they go over, we take away $1,000 from the Boys & Girls Club.
And we got Boys & Girls Club kids coming out there. So if everybodyโs going over, youโre gonna have to look at these kids. But you can also put time back on. So if you do a 20-second speech, you can throw $25,000 back on top of whatever [the total dollar amount] is. That will be a fun barometer. Iโm hoping that is such an outside-of-the-system kind of thinking. Because Iโve got to give this money, so how much is it going to be? Is it going to be $10,000 because everybody went over? Is it gonna be way more? I hope everybody just has fun, and I think thatโs a running thing โ a tally that could be fun, and I donโt want to be disrespectful. I know people worked hard and they want to give their thank-yous. I would have liked to give my thank-yous, but I lost. If everybody comes back saying, โDude, that was so fun,โ thatโs the barometer. Theyโre probably not even saying that much to me, just โDude, that was best, it was very fun to watch.โ And then Iโm like, โAll right, thanks,โ and hopefully I entertained people. Thatโs the job, the best job ever, by far.